tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post8912267189001263713..comments2024-01-18T03:34:41.899-07:00Comments on Cheaper Than Therapy: Film + Faith--Oh God!Attila the Momhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02158308703617226652noreply@blogger.comBlogger21125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-54453151885728283382007-11-19T20:16:00.000-07:002007-11-19T20:16:00.000-07:00I personally know a family who had their lives thr...I personally know a family who had their lives thrown into complete disarray by a bunch of sanctimonious assholes in their parish. With friends like these, Christianity doesn't need enemies.Special Khttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00994750661725734469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-89350169404641819142007-11-16T17:12:00.000-07:002007-11-16T17:12:00.000-07:00Hmmm, I was here but I didn't show up.Hmmm, I was here but I didn't show up.Brendahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16299205162628367889noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-72172234064269732052007-11-15T23:55:00.000-07:002007-11-15T23:55:00.000-07:00"The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle ..."The miracle is not to walk on water. The miracle is to walk on the<BR/>green earth, dwelling deeply in the present moment and feeling truly<BR/>alive." ~Thich Nhat Hanh<BR/><BR/>One of my favorite quotes. I too was brought up a Missouri Synod Lutheran. I've recovered nicely. :o)<BR/><BR/>Wonderful post.Zenmommahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06733997460907718304noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-26340304310856658762007-11-15T14:07:00.000-07:002007-11-15T14:07:00.000-07:00All of that foolishness is a result of organized r...<I>All of that foolishness is a result of organized religion, in my opinion.</I><BR/><BR/>Mine too.<BR/><BR/>Maybe religion wouldn't be so foolish if there were more people like your Mom.Charliehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00722567671925063706noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-82703366744148621592007-11-14T22:48:00.000-07:002007-11-14T22:48:00.000-07:00Its not so much the believing in the sky daddy, it...Its not so much the believing in the sky daddy, its the goddamn church and all the bullshit that swirls around and in it. Good for your mom to persevere in the face of God's love.Joehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14955078574626461009noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-63463783935181858382007-11-14T09:07:00.000-07:002007-11-14T09:07:00.000-07:00Cool post. However, it is hard to get too far out...Cool post. However, it is hard to get too far outside of the organization, isn't it?OneEarhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07979368512090481334noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-63017037705169274852007-11-12T08:21:00.000-07:002007-11-12T08:21:00.000-07:00Your Mom is truly an inspiration! I can't imagine...Your Mom is truly an inspiration! I can't imagine what courage that took.<BR/><BR/>I unfortunatley agree on the organized religion. I was raised Lutheran but it wasn't the Missouri Synod one, and they have a female pastor.<BR/><BR/>When I moved, I went to a Lutheran church down the block. . it WAS Missouri Synod. Imagine my surprise when the minister did his serman on how men should pray that the "Evi" women who take men's jobs away from them will be vanquished". Then happily smiled at me wanting me to tithe 10% of my $126,000 year income I made as an EVIL woman.<BR/><BR/>The final straw was when I went with my ex boyfriend to his church for a while. They were asking for volunteers to serve on a committee to help with some budget items. I volunteered. I have an MBA and Ph.D. I could probably offer SOMETHING. The pastor looked at me like I was crazy said "that job is for a MAN. . but we do need help in the nursery". Yup. . two graduate degrees and 20 years using it and I can't help, but by god since I have a uterus I can take care of babies, in which I have NO experience.<BR/><BR/>I have not been in a church since. Though God and I communicate on a daily basis through prayer and reading. . just not in a church.LBJhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17795791180696109276noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-64487242689370749672007-11-11T21:29:00.000-07:002007-11-11T21:29:00.000-07:00Can I just say that your mom kicks Christian ass!Can I just say that your mom kicks Christian ass!Mrs. G.https://www.blogger.com/profile/01171997573144385692noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-65964892730068812412007-11-11T20:53:00.000-07:002007-11-11T20:53:00.000-07:00Wow. Thats one impressive mom. Way to go!Now on to...Wow. Thats one impressive mom. Way to go!<BR/><BR/>Now on to other things:<BR/><BR/>Yeah. I loved the oh god movie myself. worked well. I loved that line too. It also sparked my line of thinking.....those are just buildinsg. God's work is usually done outside of them....<BR/><BR/>As to behind teh scene poltics....bah. That happens everywhere. But you were definately right: why be nice to people that smile to your face and stab you in the back? Better to kick them in the nuts when you see them.carmachuhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06037584604296331790noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-58038411889643410462007-11-11T16:19:00.000-07:002007-11-11T16:19:00.000-07:00Wow ATM...what a cool mom... and what a person to ...Wow ATM...what a cool mom... and what a person to say to herself, "Well if the pastor in my home church doesn't have the sense that God gave a goat...I'll find a divinity school and a faith community that does"...and sometimes she did :)<BR/><BR/>I'm outside of organized religion too, for some different reasons... and I refuse to *impose* what I believe on someone else. That's the height of rude. <BR/><BR/>Being the wife of a seminary student...any protestant church has to do three things for me or I just won't bother:<BR/><BR/>1. Understand that God loves peoples physicalness just as is--- no faith healing desired or required...<BR/><BR/>2. Open communion, not closed.<BR/><BR/>3. Don't put Paul's letters--written by a former Pharissee and Christian-hunter with an axe to grind *above* the actual words of Jesus... If anybody's going to read the New Testament, doesn't is seem that the the first lamp of ones interpretation ought to be Christ's words? Maybe I'm stupid.imfunnytoohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12942406430628029505noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-51804453303796122292007-11-11T15:42:00.000-07:002007-11-11T15:42:00.000-07:00Wonderful story about your Mom - what a courageous...Wonderful story about your Mom - what a courageous and determined lady.<BR/>And I agree with your stance on organized religion - stopped attending the church years ago after witnessing much "throwing of stones."Bethhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14110235078325434919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-36791424908407243792007-11-11T14:55:00.000-07:002007-11-11T14:55:00.000-07:00I am SO with you on organized religion. I have ne...I am SO with you on organized religion. I have never thoroughly enjoyed observing my religion and is the main reason I don't practice today. I have no problem with those who choose to fill their lives with it as long as they don't preach to me about it.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-49702523811429898782007-11-11T13:43:00.000-07:002007-11-11T13:43:00.000-07:00What an Awesome Mom You are sooo Lucky!! As for c...What an Awesome Mom You are sooo Lucky!! <BR/><BR/>As for church I agree with your thoughts about organized religion... IN the depths of my depression my husband reached out to our pastors and we were told just to forgive and move on and snap out of it... Not the help I needed at the time... So many hypocritical people there... <BR/><BR/>RRAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-31778612654774996482007-11-11T13:00:00.000-07:002007-11-11T13:00:00.000-07:00Your mom is an awesome woman.And it's easy to see ...Your mom is an awesome woman.<BR/>And it's easy to see how you and her are alike ;]Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-5088695189073069312007-11-11T12:50:00.000-07:002007-11-11T12:50:00.000-07:00I always say that I have my own church. I believe...I always say that I have my own church. I believe in goodness, and in being kind to others. I do not believe in 'organized' religion. Is it just me, or is there a reason we also have something called 'organized' crime? <BR/><BR/>I really can't stand people who insist on pushing their beliefs down my throat. Especially when those beliefs seem to be very close-minded. I always think I am alone in this, but your post, and the responses have shown me that maybe I am not so alone after all. Maybe I should start my own 'organized' religion about inclusion and fairness to others, and letting people live their own lives as they see fit, as long as they are not harming others...KLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07233287697402592993noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-87946278137838521282007-11-11T11:08:00.000-07:002007-11-11T11:08:00.000-07:00amen :)i think the one good thing about organized ...amen :)<BR/><BR/>i think the one good thing about organized religion is that there are other people you can talk to about faith. a support system when you need it. <BR/><BR/>but of course, it has many many many flaws and hypocrisy overwhelms all the good qualities that may have come from it.cripchickhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01921991456026214435noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-61244599526122861012007-11-11T10:47:00.000-07:002007-11-11T10:47:00.000-07:00I sort of feel the same way I do go to church some...I sort of feel the same way I do go to church some times but for the most part I have made my own pathAngelahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02786127130691625566noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-61086858086249332362007-11-11T09:26:00.000-07:002007-11-11T09:26:00.000-07:00Hi Attila,What a “spiritually uplifting” post…hall...Hi Attila,<BR/>What a “spiritually uplifting” post…hallelujah! The stigmas the various churches placed on your Mom because she was a divorced woman (Lordy, Lordy) indicate how shallow and hypocritical some organized religions can be. It’s these same Bible-thumping zealots that have the audacity to call themselves “Christians”. Unfortunately, their major tenet is “our way or the highway” with zero tolerance for any diversity of belief or thought. A great many people have been off put by this type of attitude and as a result do not attend any church. <BR/><BR/>And then there’s the issue of the “collection” plate. When parishioners are coerced into giving more than they can comfortably afford or made to feel guilty because of what the church deems paltry, it’s about time to pick up your holy book and go worship someplace else. I find being in my garden or strolling along the beach on Sunday morning can be more spiritually elevating than sitting in a pew listening to someone drone on about the possibility of redemption…and there’s no need to dress up! <BR/><BR/>This is an excellent thought provoking post. Hallelujah Sister!!Litzihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15797830477221024642noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-60940302403343075482007-11-11T09:23:00.000-07:002007-11-11T09:23:00.000-07:00Your mother sounds wonderful!Your mother sounds wonderful!Casdokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03497897393162856190noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-74107118528652286052007-11-11T07:47:00.000-07:002007-11-11T07:47:00.000-07:00"It's just my own journey, as I think it should be..."It's just my own journey, as I think it should be for us all."<BR/><BR/>That sums it up for me, too. Good on your mom for following her calling and not letting some strait-laced oppressors steal her joy. You know, the details have differed slightly, but I've come away from regular church attendance with the the frequent thought in my head that the place could easily be called "house of blasphemers." The political and social pressure is tons-per-square-inch, and I think that is anathema to what Christ taught. Just my opinion. Anyway, they can keep their big bag of bullshit, and I'll just tend my garden and be thankful for the world and my life in my own quiet (and occasionally obscene) way!phlegmfatalehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08636803080525003892noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21447266.post-41102415037220130662007-11-11T05:42:00.000-07:002007-11-11T05:42:00.000-07:00I don't have a hot video. Sorry. All I have is a...I don't have a hot video. Sorry. All I have is an observation: I don't like organized religion either. I am a disorganized religion, consisting of one follower (me) and a deity who understands why I'm such a jerk.<BR/><BR/>I think I love your mom, though. If I'd seen a religious leader like her during my formative years, I might not have given up so easily.golfwidowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05814109136049807372noreply@blogger.com